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Were Newton's laws superseded by quantum mechanics?

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Kara Johnston


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Kwun Chi Leung

QM can be used to explain phenomenon more accurately than classical mechanics in the extremely small scale. However when we are calculating most motions in daily life, applying Newton's Laws of mechanics is more than enough.

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Gavin Rodger

quantum mechanics is the study of the very small and the very fast (relativistic speeds). newtons laws dictate the mechanics we expect from respectively large bodies (i.e. a 'body' of particles) moving at relativitly low speeds (non-relativistic speeds).


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physics research can be split into 4 groups: small and fast (quantum mechanics); small and slow (atomic/nuclear physics); big and fast (general relativity); and big and slow (newtonic physics)

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An interesting question and the answer is all about the scale at which you are observing the world. Newton's Laws are still valid and are still used today, because they describe the world that we can see all around us. For example, a car cruising down the motorway, or a gymnast spinning round a high bar. Quantum mechanics, however, describes things that are happening on a much smaller scale, way beyond what we can see - the subatomic scale.


So, for the moment at least, we need to use both sets of theory to help us understand our world.

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Gabriel Pinheiro Sanchez

Hi Kara,


This is an interesting question. Maybe trying to reframe it would make you understand it better. You can think of Mechanics as a subfield of Physics, it deals primarily with static or moving bodies inserted into a certain space. Newton's Laws of Mechanics apply in a specific area of this subfield, that of the visible world, anything from an ant to a jet will comply to Newton's equations just fine with little to no error.

However, when we move our observed space into smaller or bigger objects, these equations, while still somewhat valid, start to break apart and return wrong results when measured experimentally. That is where quantum mechanics comes in. The equations that Dirac, Plank, among others developed, work very well for objects inside this size scale, for example an atom can have a radius of 0.1 nanometers (that's 10000000000 times smaller than a meter!), here quantum mechanics works perfectly.

Now, for an extra thought, if we go to a large scale, a whole planet for example, General and Special relativity become the standard Mechanical equations we deal with. While Newton's equations work relatively better than for quantum scales, it still does not account for many phenomena we observe with objects so massive.


TL;DR It is not a matter of superseding one another, these theories complement each other to provide a complete view of our universe and the phenomena around us. As Newton famously said “If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants".


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Not really. In terms of A-level Newton's Laws are fully correct for macroscopic objects-even those requiring a microscope to see-i.e persons, planets, vehicles, tiny oil drops etc. Quantum physics only applies to subatomic particles. Additionally, subatomic particles conserve momentum in the Newtonian was...

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Newton's laws remain a valid approximation that work well in everyday situations. We can still safely use our three laws of motion when doing problems about things like the motion of cars on the road.

Einstein's theory of relativity provides a more complete framework that takes into account the behaviour of objects as they approach the speed of light, and is needed for understanding how astronomical phenomena like black holes work.

Quantum mechanics provides insight into the behaviour of matter on a very small scale, and does in some sense supersede Newton's laws for the behaviour of atoms and other particles. We can't really treat atoms like billiard balls that simply bounce off each other - at a quantum scale things are different and more 'fuzzy'.

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George Weatherhead-Featherston

What a fantastic question! Newton's laws weren’t replaced by quantum mechanics – they still work amazingly well for everyday things like cars, rockets, or footballs! Newton's laws explain how objects move in the world we see around us, and they're still super important for understanding how things like gravity work.

Quantum mechanics, though, comes in when we're talking about really, really small stuff, like atoms and tiny particles. At that super small level, things get weird and behave in ways Newton's laws can't fully explain. So, quantum mechanics is like the next layer of understanding for the microscopic world, but Newton's laws are still essential for everything else! Both are really cool and help us see the universe in different ways!

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Newton's laws of motion apply to macroscopic objects, while quantum mechanics describes the behavior of particles at the atomic and subatomic scales. They coexist and are not superseded by each other.

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Pooja Uday Naik

Newton's laws were not superseded by quantum mechanics. They hold true for classical mechanics and particles in the geometric regime. However, when we consider particles that are really small, like those of subatomic atoms, Newton's law collapses and the laws of quantum mechanics are more suited to describe the motion and behavior of these particles.

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Faustas

No, Newton's laws were not superseded by quantum mechanics; rather, they apply in different contexts. Newton's laws of motion describe the behavior of macroscopic objects and work well for everyday phenomena. Quantum mechanics, on the other hand, governs the behavior of particles at very small scales, such as atoms and subatomic particles.

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Andrew Mainey

I would say no, Newtons law deal wit the behaviour of very large objects, where as quantum physics deals with the behaviour of very small objects. Very small objects, such as photons can travel a relativistic speeds, this affects the way they experience time. This does not happen to large objects.

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Joel Douglas-Jones

No they weren’t, Newtonian mechanics are very useful and accurate on the scales we work with generally in day to day life, Quantum mechanics on these scales produce the same answers as Newtonian mechanics, we only see large disparities between the two at the ~atomic scale

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Sidra Shuja

No. Newton's laws are used to explain our daily life while at the atomic level, they fail to explain the motion and nature of atoms and that is where quantum mechanics come in. Therefore, Newton's laws are still in use.

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Chidozie Kingsley Edoziem

Not necessarily. However quantum mechanics provided clarity to lots of unanswered questions regarding mechanics at the atomic level. Classical/Newtonian mechanics failed to provide answers to certain questions surrounding black body radiation and energy levels in atoms.


Quantum mechanics therefore provided us a more accurate insight into the world of subatomic particles addressing the limitations of Newtonian mechanics.

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Ryan Barwell

For most purposes both Newton's laws and quantum mechanics are valid explanations for how systems behave, however it's best to think of the quantum scale world and the sort of scale we recognise and see on larger scales as different things. Newton's laws were discovered way before the advent of quantum mechanics, this does not mean that they were superceded though, they just solve decrepancies in the quantum world that newton's laws might not not predict. The major thing that separates the laws of motions and quantum mechanics is that newton's laws are deterministic, this means that when the same conditions are given, the same output will be given. Quantum mechanics is probablistic, if you observe a particle in could be in a different place each time you observe it. Either way they're both correct but when applied to different frames of reference

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